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What happened in these chapters?
We begin with a nonsense parable.
Then it's back to An-mei (her mother cut off part of her arm!) and she tells a story about how her mother was the fourth wife of a rich man after being widowed. The second wife gave An-mei a pearl necklace, but it was fake. The second wife was unable to have a child, so when An-mei's mother did give birth, the second wife took the child and raised it as her own. And Rose gets ignored for the rest of the book.
We next switch to Ying-Ying and hear her side of the story about breaking the vase. She does a flashback in which we learn about her past with an arranged marriage to a man who abused and cheated on her. Many years later she married an American and it wasn't until many years later that she told him about her life in China. (Poor Ying-Ying.)
Waverly Tells Lindo that she will blend in so well with the Chinese on her honeymoon that she won’t be allowed to return to America. When Lindo replies that the Chinese will know Waverly is American before she even opens her mouth, Waverly is disappointed. Lindo remembers her early days in the United States, working in a fortune cookie company and meeting Waverly's father and having two sons - Winston (wins ton) and Vincent (win cent). There's a thing about how both Lindo and Waverly have crooked noses and Lindo urges Waverly to get it fixed, but Waverly likes how it makes them look devious.
We finish with June going to China with her father. He reunites with family. She learns about how her mother stuffed her half-sisters shirts with jewelry and money and wrote their names on the back of photos with a message asking their rescuer to care for the babies and bring them to her address when safe again. Unfortunately, their rescuers were never able to find her mother. She meets her half-sisters and they greet her joyfully.
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Hat mentions (why hats?):
small brown felt hat ("Magpies")
tucked into this hat ("Magpies")
foreign men in hats ("Magpies")
I see cat. I see rat. I see hat. ("Double Face")
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Lines of note:
Wearing those clothes, I felt as if I had grown new hands and feet and I would now have to learn to walk in a new way. ("Magpies")
"She makes clouds with one hand, rain with the other." ("Magpies")
I was far more pretty than my daughter, who has country feet and a large nose like her father's. ("Waiting Between the Trees")
When my daughter looks at me, she sees a small old lady. That is because she sees only with her outside eyes. She has no chuming, no inside knowing of things. If she had chuming, she would see a tiger lady. And she would have careful fear. ("Waiting Between the Trees")
She learned these things, but I couldn't teach her about Chinese character. How to obey parents and listen to your mother's mind. How not to show your own thoughts, to put your feelings behind your face so you can take advantage of hidden opportunities. Why easy things are not worth pursuing. How to know your own worth and polish it, never flashing it around like a cheap ring. Why Chinese thinking is best. ("Double Face")
I walked up this hill and then I saw a tall building. This was Old St. Mary's. Under the church sing, in handwritten Chinese characters, someone had added: "A Chinese Ceremony to Save Ghosts from Spiritual Unrest 7 A.M. and 8:30 A.M." I memorized this information in case the authorities asked me where I worshipped my religion. And then I saw another sign across the street. It was painted on the outside of a short building. And I thought to myself, This is where American people worship. ("Double Face")
...I think about all the different ways we leave people in this world. Cheerily waving good-bye to some at airports, knowing we'll never see each other again. Leaving others on the side of the road, hoping that we will. ("A Pair of Tickets")
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Things I looked up:
famous Shantung sing-song girl ("Magpies") - Sing-song girls, also known as flower girls, is an English-language term for the high class prostitutes in China during the 19th century
The whole watermelon scene in "Waiting Between the Trees." - Turns out kai gwa is a euphemism for taking her virginity. Once I figured this out, it made more sense and the whole scene was even worse to read.
soups served out of a carved winter melon ("A Pair of Tickets") - Is this a thing?
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Questions to ponder:
1) Please explain the parable to me.
2) The novel begins with the mothers, includes two parts on the daughters, and returns to the mothers in the last part. Why do you think it's structured this way? Why do you think the book has Suyuan die so that her part of the story is told from June's perspective?
3) There are so many heartbreaking birth/childhood stories in this book - Ying-Ying's dead baby, Bing's death, Suyuan's abandoned daughters, An-mei's stolen child - what purpose does this serve in the theme of the mother and daughter relationships?
4) How much of the communication breakdowns between the women and their daughters was because of culture? How much was generational?
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Last week's homework:
What was your theme last week? Did you pick it up when you were reading?
My theme was color and I think the biggest example of it was white, particularly in "Magpies."
And when I opened that box, all my shame, my fears, they fell away. Inside was a new starch-white dress. It had ruffles at the collar and along the sleeves and six tiers of ruffles for a skirt. The box also contained white stocking, white leather shoes, and an enormous white hair bow, already shaped and ready to be fastened on with two loose ties.
Later on in the chapter: I looked down at my own white dress covered with grass stains and I felt ashamed.
The white stands for the symbolism of the child An-mei here. She has no idea what she's stepping into by going to her mother's home. Her mother as the fourth wife, bringing shame on to her family. And then the grass stain is her mother's shame.
There are also the white pearls that the second wife gives An-mei, which we soon learn are fake glass.
It was interesting to see the parallels here between An-mei and her mother as the story progressed.
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Upcoming CBBC schedule:

I think the parable reflects how the mothers tried to teach their daughters so they wouldn't suffer like the moms did, but maybe they all went too far, too rigid. ( goodness knows Waverly could use sone humility!) Now it's about trying to find happiness/hope even having experienced the evils.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad Rose found the sisters, but it's better than she deserves. An-Mei 's mother was bad-ass- committing suicide timed so her daughter would be taken care of. It's interesting how the superstitions become weapons for the weak.
I am so glad this book is done.
Whoops! I meant June. See how much I didn't like the daughters? I can't keep them straight. Except for Waverly, the mean girl.
DeleteI find all the characters to be hard to keep straight, too. You're not alone!
DeleteAn-mei's mother was so fascinating. I want HER book. Just her.
Hmm. I cannot for the life of me remember the parable for this section! Oh well.
ReplyDeleteThe stories in this section struck me as especially poignant. It is so impossibly hard to KNOW someone, even when you shared a body for nine months. Maybe it's only once someone is gone, and you can look back on their past actions as a whole, that you can begin to *try* to understand why they behaved as they did. Or maybe you can never really know someone, or why they did what they did, and the book's lesson is that the why is a matter of interpretation. You can see the bad, the hurt, the harm, or you can see the fear and love and complicated context underlying those actions -- or you can see both at once.
I know this book wasn't for everyone, but I loved it. The world Tan creates is so rich with symbols and signs. There is so much striving to achieve better for one's offspring. There is so much triumph over horrific experience. There is so much possibility for closeness and reconciliation. It was a very moving and satisfying read for me.
Are you a Jane Eyre fan? This feels like the sort of novel that would appeal to fans of Jane Eyre. It's like bad thing after bad thing after bad thing happens and it's unrelenting and it's grim. I feel the same way about this book. Geez. I just wanted a lighthearted moment. (I was sort of excited about the beach scene and then we all know what happened with Bing.)
DeleteThe Buddha is almost always portrayed in sculpture and pictures as laughing and/ or smiling. I believe the parable shows that although life is hard, and we lose our innocence that we are born with, we can still have hope and laughter throughout our lives. Also in Buddhism, there is rebirth of the soul, which the grandmother sees in the granddaughter. Our bodies are "rental houses for the soul" and the grandmother sees that the lessons of the Buddha are being taught through her baby granddaughter.
ReplyDeleteThe part about seeing her mother with only her outside eyes was very touching to me.
Yeah, the outside eyes thing is really interesting to me. I frequently miss subtle cues as to what people are truly thinking and feeling and when people point them out to me later, I feel dumb because it seems like everyone else just gets it. I have a low EQ or something? So I definitely rely on my outside eyes and feel like I lack insight.
DeleteThe nonsense parable did me in! I had been taking the approach of reading all of the chapters as stand alone stories, and assuming that I would figure it all out later. Well, once the parable hit I could't get back on track or make sense of the rest of the book. I literally just turned the pages without comprehending anything.
ReplyDeleteYeah, it was a struggle for me. You're not alone. This book did not come at the right time in my life. Maybe I would have liked it more at a different point in time.
DeleteI haven't been reading alongside you all, but remember being blown away when I first read it. I think it helped teen me realize mothers too are people who are figuring things out as their lives play out...
ReplyDeleteAnd I remember how upset my mom got when the husband in the couple that kept separate finances made the wife pay for the cat food FOR THE CAT HE HAD GIFTED HER. (Or at least that's the way I remember it.)
Yeah, Harold was not a great character. None of the husbands in this book seem to be worthwhile, to be honest!
DeleteOMFG Maya, RIGHT? That husband was the worst. THE WORST. I mean, not as bad as some of the husbands that were left behind I guess, but how he demeaned her. Making her pay for the cat food. Saying that because he paid more of the mortgage, he had more say about the house. AND he was her boss, so could have paid her more! GAH, I wanted to slap him to sleep, as my grandma would have said.
ReplyDeleteYes! He had control of ALL the purse strings. He KNEW her finances, probably better than she did. Harold was not a good guy.
DeleteI meant the comment above as a reply to Maya, but going through the steps to log in to comment, I guess it moved to its own comment. So here is my comment on this section. I think the book is structured this way because it follows Mah Jong somehow, but I haven’t played Mah Jong in so many years (I was a kid, likely we played Jewish Mah Jong, no strategy) that I can’t remember why I think that.
ReplyDeleteI really loved this book, though as I said when we chose it, it’s heartbreaking. So many dead children / babies. So many misunderstandings and bad marriages. I found the line about seeing me with her outside eyes to be really poignant, and it brought me back to the first section of the book when June says to the aunties that she doesn’t really know her mother.
Did Amy Tan have a similar experience to June? Again, something I remember hearing back when I first read the book, but I’m not sure. I liked that while the mothers had a tough go of it in China, and the daughters were having a tough go of it here, that the mothers were trying to give their daughters a better life.
My understanding of Tan's biography is that it was also VERY SAD. She was the child of two Chinese immigrants and they lived in Fresno. When she was a teenager, both her father AND brother died of brain tumors within six months of each other. She and her mother moved to Switzerland. During this period, Tan learned about her mother's previous marriage to another man in China, of their four children (a son who died as a toddler and three daughters). She also learned how her mother left those children in Shanghai. This incident was a catalyst for JLC. In 1987, she traveled with her mother to China, where she met her three half-sisters.
DeleteSo, yeah, this book has a lot of autobiographical elements in it.
Okay. I have a confession- I didn't get through the book yet. I MEANT to, but I was going to read yesterday and NaBloPoMo just got the best of me. I feel really bad (and like I'm not a cool blogger anymore!) I am definitely going to finish this book BEFORE I READ ANYTHING ELSE so I can participate properly in next week's discussion.
ReplyDeleteEh, you aren't missing anything by not finishing it. LOL.
Delete2 - I think I would have preferred a different order of sections with them being more chronological, but I think it was an intentional way to show how our lives begin with our mothers and we are impacted by the trauma and life experiences they've had. It's hard to be a healthy parent with a healthy relationship with your children if you have unresolved trauma or conflict in your life. But it takes a sh*t ton of privilege to deal with trauma! Ask me how I know.
ReplyDelete3 - I think the stories of loss and tragedy are representative of the experience of many women. There is so much positivity around having children/pregnancy, but at least 25% of the population of women with children will experience a miscarriage. And even if you avoid that, a significant number of women probably go through something challenging during their pregnancy. Both apply to me. And I think it can result in more anxiety and trying to find a false sense of control over your child and their health. And sometimes that can go too far and impact the relationship with a child potentially, especially on top of generational trauma like these women experienced.
4 - I think it's both. They are raising children in a culture and environment that is completely different from the one they are raised in. And then I think a bigger part of it is generational. It seems like older generations were less open about things. Like my grandma didn't even want to tell us how she got engaged to my grandpa. Which I do not understand at all. She was such a private person - like an onion with many layers to peel back. My mom is more open and now as a mom, I'm more open. And I think that's beneficial for a relationship.
Yes, dealing with trauma has its own trauma. And you need time and space to deal with it and a lot of times people just do not have that time or space. I hope you are allowing yourself what you need right now.
DeleteI do understand that having children/babies is much less romantic than this world makes it out to be. But I don't understand why this book had to be endlessly bleak. There were no moments of levity or lightness to break it up and I just don't know if that's how I want to see life. I don't know. This book was obviously not a good fit for me.
Well, we found out (maybe) why the kid's name is Bing.
ReplyDeleteI didn't Hate this book, but I found it to be unnecessarily confusing. Then I wondered, is it because the names weren't White Girl names? Was that the only reason? If the names were Angela Grey, Betty Grey, Madison Barton, Joan Barton, etc., would I have still been confused? I don't know. Of course, that would change the entire character of the story and its journey, but it made me feel squeamish about myself.
I think the parable is simply a sort of showcase for the hopes and fears of mothers in general. Babies are born into the world with absolute unspoiled happiness, trust, and innocence. Mothers wish--naturally--that they could protect their babies enough to allow them to keep that newborn aura. But in order to do that, they have to sometimes do things that shatter those very things in themselves. And, realistically, the mothers know that the world won't allow their children to live with that newborn gift. It's a hard decision to make, to know what and how much of the true nature of life to expose a child to so that he/she can live in the world as it is.
You brought up Jane Eyre. I love that book, and I don't find it unrelentingly bleak and sad. It's the story of a woman's courage and strength, and, eventually, a story of love. Of course it's full of trials and tribulations and Dark And Stormy because it's a Victorian novel. But Jane triumphs in the end, and she does so with moral courage and upright character. Because Victorian.
The clash of cultures AND generations AND internal conflicts of the daughters were the cause of so many problems between the mothers and their daughters. Apparently, Chinese culture and tradition is very deep-seated and rigid. And it seems to be quite matriarchal. I have to say that if I were raised like the mothers and had their lives, I'd be a bit of a mess with my daughters, too. The daughters are caught between two generations and cultures. Their role models have impact, but they've got to be conflicted about exactly what they want for their own lives. It's clear that they struggle with what their role is in an adult relationship. How do they even know what to look for in a mate?
Finally, the whole concubine chapter is so replete with symbolism that I could have used it to teach my honors lit and creative writing classes. Heavy-handed, almost. Yikes. The colour white for purity and innocence, the stain for shame, the glass beads for falseness and corruption, the bed crushing lion's paws (loss of courage), etc. etc. etc.
I don't borrow books, so I bought this one. I will give it to the Little Free Library when we're done with CBBC, but I'll remember it.
To me the parable is about life. We start out innocent, get bumped and bruised along the way through life experiences, and hopefully do not become so bitter and cynical that we don't see the beauty in it. I think that is the hope most parents have for their children. You know your children will be hurt by life, but hopefully they will still see some good in it and not be permanently beaten down by it.
ReplyDeleteRelationships are complicated and I think the element of cultural differences added to the difficulties the mothers and daughters navigated in addition to generational differences.
My favourite part of this section was the conversation between Lindo and An-Mei in the fortune cookie factory. How they laughed at American's who thought Chinese people wrote the sayings. Lindo said, "But we never say such things! These things don't make sense. These are not fortunes, they are bad instructions." That made me laugh out loud.
I loved revisiting the book! You mentioned in a comment above that it might be a book someone who enjoyed Jane Eyre would like and that does happen to be one of my favourite books.