Monday, February 17, 2025

Week Three, Chapters 16-24, The Blue Castle CBBC

Past discussions:
Week One, Chapters 1-8
Week Two, Chapters 9-15


Welcome to Week Three of Cool Bloggers Book Club (CBBC) for The Blue Castle by L.M. Montgomery. This week we'll be discussing chapters 16-24. 

All page numbers refer to the version on Archive

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What happened in these chapters?

Valancy heads over to the House of Gay and takes over the housekeeping. She renews her friendship with Cissy. She enjoys having her own money and happily spends it on things her family would not approve of, including a low cut dress and a fancy hat. Her family tries to get her to come home. She GETS TO RIDE IN BARNEY'S CAR! Barney and Valancy do all sorts of fun things together, like go to the movies and get Chinese food. She goes to a party she shouldn't have gone to, but Barney saves the day. She falls in love with Barney.

Cissy dies, but not before she tells Valancy that the man she fell in love with refused to marry because her because he no longer loved her. When her baby died she was devastated. Valancy is figuring out the funeral details, but where will she go next?

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Hat mentions (why hats?):

"...Get your hat and coat and come now.” (page 142)

She got a pretty green crépe dress with a girdle of crimson beads, at a bargain sale, a pair of silk stockings, to match, and a little crinkled green hat with a crimson rose in it. (page 145)

She flung on her coat and pulled the little, twisty hat over her hair. (page 149)

Her little hat with its crimson rose was tilted down over one eye. (page 165)

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Last week's homework:

What was your scavenger hunt word? Did you find it in the reading? Where? (I think I found cat, smile, and teeth!)

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Lines of note:

Of course, the Stirlings had not left the poor maniac alone all this time or refrained from heroic efforts to rescue her perishing soul. (page 136)

Poor maniac!!

Dr. Stalling was not so sure of this and had no great liking for the task. He did not believe Valancy Stirling was out of her mind. She had always been queer. He, Dr. Stalling, had never been able to understand her. Therefore, beyond doubt, — she was queer. She was only just a little queerer than usual now.  (page 138)

Last week folks in the comments touched on the use of the verb ejaculate in the text. I have to admit that the use of queer here (along with the name Gay) made me sort of wonder about LMM. Of course, I'm used to the modern definitions of these words, but I was taken out of the text by passages like this.

"Miss Stirling can go if she pleases, or stay if she pleases. I made a fair bargain with her, and she’s free to conclude it when she likes. She gives me meals that stick to my ribs. She don’t forget to put salt in the porridge. She never slams doors, and when she has nothing to say she don’t talk. That's uncanny in a woman, you know, Mister. I’m satisfied. If she isn’t, she’s free to go. But no woman comes here in Jim Stirling’s pay. If any one does"—Abel’s — voice was uncannily bland and polite—"I"ll spatter the road with her brains. Tell him that with A. Gay’s compliments.” (page 141)

That's uncanny in a woman, you know. Yeah. 

Mrs. Frederick wept. It would really have been so much easier to bear if Valancy had died. She could have worn mourning then. (page 144)

Valancy's mother's arc is not very flattering in this book, is it?

Altogether, it seemed that Valancy’s matrimonial chances were never so bright as they were at Cecilia Gay’s funeral. (page 86)

This book is HILARIOUS. 

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Things I looked up:

supernal (page 150) - being or coming from on high

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How many times did the Blue Castle get name checked in these chapters?

EIGHT!! (page 119 x 2, page 127 x 4, page 129, page 159)

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Questions to ponder (as always, feel free to answer as many or few of these as you'd like - talk about what you want to talk about!):

1) What is Valancy going to do now? Surely she won't go back to her family?

2) Consider these two passages from the chapters:
Valancy was perfectly happy. Some things dawn on you slowly. Some things come by lightning flashes. Valancy had had a lightning flash. 
She knew quite well now that she loved Barney. Yesterday she had been all her own. Now she as this man’s. (page 157)

In just that infinitesimal space of time everything was changed. (page 158)

So this isn't necessarily love at first sight, but it does seem like it was sudden. What do you think about this? Do you think she would have "fallen in love" with the first guy who ever showed her interest or was kind to her or saved her from sexual assault at a party? Or do you think she really is in love with Barney? 

3) Did you think Cissy's death was sudden? How does it fit with the tone of the rest of the book?

4) Valancy did a lot of things for the first time: riding in a car, going to a Chinese restaurant, going to that party, watching a movie, buying a low-cut dress. What were you most excited about Valancy getting to do? What would you have done first if you had been in her shoes?

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Homework for you:

Let's do a close reading practice!  Lectio Divina ("sacred reading" in Latin) is a close reading practice based on a monastic Christian tradition, but we can apply it to non-theist works. It's a four-part process. This may not be precisely how you'd do this if you were at your local Bible study, but here's the guidance I'm offering you, based on information from here

First, flip through the chapters and wherever your finger lands on the page, you'll engage that word or phrase at four different levels.  

1) Narrative: Look at the quote and describe its place in the narrative. 

2) Symbolism: What metaphors are hidden in the text? What symbols do you see?

3) Reflection: How does this text speak to you in your life today?

4) Invitation: What action are you going to take?

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Upcoming CBBC schedule:

February 24: Chapters 25-32
March 3: Chapters 33-45
March 10: Wrap-up

45 comments:

  1. *Cissy refused to marry the guy, because she could see he didn't love her anymore.
    " Never mind making excuse for him", said Valancy a bit shortly . So you wouldn't marry him? 'I couldnt- not when he didn't love me anymore. Somehow I can't explain- it seemed a worse thing to do... "
    So Cissy chose the hard path because she has integrity, self-respect. The weakest person has a strong sense of right and wrong.
    * Her uncle was the one who had to sell them some gas after they ran out escaping the dance. I love that.
    And Valancy doesnt back down or act ashamed.
    *I like that Valancy is kind to Cousin Georgiana when she comes to the Gay house to beg her to come home.
    *Cissy probably lived longer than expected due to Valancy's care. She was ready to rest, though. And it was a gentle death- I think that fits the tone. The slender old moon hanging in the sky in the sunrise- everything calm and symbolizing a welcome end.

    I found "cat" twice.
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    1. And I think she fell for Barney because he had an independent spirit and didn't care what other people thought. She then saw how thoughtful a friend he was to Cissy and Abel. Him saving her at the dance was a help, but I think it was more the fact that they were comfortable together, both outsiders in their own way, that sealed the deal.

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    2. I do love that Valancy is dealing with her family with so much integrity. She's not ashamed of what she's doing and she's not putting up with her family trying to knock her down.

      I do think Barney is a nice guy and he's being very stand up, but I also sort of think that she would feel the same way about any guy who treated her and her friends well!

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  2. I agree, this book is hilarious.

    1. I don't think Valency will go back to her family. I wonder if she will try to stay on with Abel and find another job?

    2. given her background, I am not surprised that she fell in love with the first guy who was kind to her, the first guy she got to know. I think part of why it happened suddenly is that she knows how awful people can be, and she's touched to get to know someone who is not a horrible person.

    3. I did not think Cissy's death was sudden, considering that she was ill before Valency arrived. I agree with MB that she lasted longer because Valency was there to care for her. I think her death fits the tone of the book, because it is a fast paced book and while I don't think her death was fast - I think she was introduced and then died once her character had served her purpose. I love how much Cissy appreciated Valency and how she shared the details of her background. I love that Valency felt at peace with her passing, knowing that she was ready.

    4. I would have gone shopping in a heartbeat. That was a great move - to be able to dress in something that didn't come with her from her mother's house. Her new outfit set her apart and was just one more way to show her family, when she crossed paths with them, that she was her own person.

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    1. Like other people have said below, I don't think she can really stay at Abel's without another woman there. That would be shocking, even beyond her already shocking behavior.

      See, I guess I felt like Cissy wasn't that sick - there was that line about how she was having a good day, so Valancy took off - and her death sort of came out of nowhere. I still feel like I'm reading a different book than everyone else!

      Yeah, it's too bad she doesn't feel confident enough to wear the new dress. But I suspect that's coming up soon!

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  3. The Cissy storyline is so sad to me. I also think she's not a reliable narrator of her own story because if - IF - some rich guy staying in a Muskoka hotel knocked up one of the staff members, there is no way he'd marry her, no matter what she says. I think the father thing was just an excuse. That just didn't happen, no man of means at that time would have married a maid. They just wouldn't have. So Cissy is even sadder to me because she believes it could have happened and that she had the power in the situation. I think when people are dying they change the narrative; it's a soothing thing to do, and that is what I think she's doing. I know I'm obsessed with this detail but it always hit me the wrong way. I don't think her death was sudden, she had "consumption" which I believe was tuberculosis, and she's living in kind of poverty and grim circumstances.
    Who among us hasn't regretted a party they went to! That part always gave me chills, when Valancy is in the wrong place.

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    1. Wouldn't you dislike being married to a man who had fallen out of love with you, who only had to because his father ordered him to (I can totally see that happening in the day- don't want to bring shame on the family by having a bastard out there), who would wind up despising you? Cissy has her dignity! And she loved her son- he was all hers. I don't think she regretted that choice.

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    2. I also don't think she regretted the choice, I was talking about regretting the wild dance from Valency's point of view. I agree with you re: disliking being married to a man who didn't love me, but I just don't think that is a realistic thing. I guess we read this differently, because I don't think a wealthy man would order his son to marry someone he'd knocked up. I read it as his father said he shouldn't marry Cissy. I think wealthy men impregnated impoverished/ working young girls all the time back then, and I think they got off scot-free, honestly. I don't think anyone would have cared that there was a "bastard" because a woman's word would have meant nothing against that of a powerful/ wealthy man's.

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    3. Cissy's story is so sad. What were her options if she hadn't died? Or if her baby hadn't died? What would have become of her?

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  4. Poor Cissy. I'm not sure I agree with Nicole (above) that her version of the story is unreliable. I think it was a plot point, that she chose not to marry him because he didn't love her. Although I will agree that given the time period in which this story takes place, that seems unrealistic. But whatever- it's a story.
    The use of the word "queer" didn't take me out of the story. I'm used to reading older books where they use words in a different way than we do now. Oh, and I actually had a great-aunt whose name was "Gay" but then in later years she changed her name to "Anne." But everyone in the family referred to her as "Anne-Gay."
    I never really questioned Valancey's love for Barney. Yes, she was probably ready to fall in love with someone, and he was attractive because he was completely different than anyone in her family. I mean... I guess I'm always a little skeptical of the way people "fall in love" so quickly in books, but I just accept it as part of the plot.
    Once again- I read this whole book a couple weeks ago so I can't answer some of these questions- I know exactly what's going to happen! I can't wait till everyone else finishes so we can discuss the ending.

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    1. You are willing to accept a lot for the sake of plot! I (obviously) want more realism. Ha!

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  5. My jaw dropped when Cissy died, and it was so hard to stop reading when I got to the end of this week's assigned reading. I am dying to get back to it, and it is going to take a lot of discipline to spread the reading out over the week.

    1. She is NOT going back to her family. I think there might be an issue with staying at Abel's because she is now the only woman in the house, but she'll figure out an alternative.

    2. If Barney is good enough for her, he's good enough for me. I'm not questioning her choice.

    3. Um yes it was sudden. I think the death will be used to move the plot forward, as in she can't just stay in Abel's house and ignore her family.

    4. I loved that she got the dress.

    I have no idea what is going to happen next, but I am here for it. I still want John Foster to make an appearance. Something like Barney and John Foster are the same person. Or John Foster has some connection to Cissy.

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    1. Yes, I was also wondering if Barney and John Forster are the same person.

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    2. Excellent guess about Barney and John Forster. Do we know what Barney does for a living? Does he write books?!

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    3. OMG if Barney and John Forster end up being the same person, this would SEAL IT FOR ME. Can you imagine Valancy's glee?! AHH. Thank you for bringing this delightful potential to my attention, Birchie!

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    4. Oooh I've been having the same thoughts about Barney being John Foster too! How perfect would that be?

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  6. I think Ernie made some very good points in her responses. Valancy would be creating an untenable situation for herself, however, if she decided to stay on with Abel Gay unchaperoned. That's the kind of thing a single woman cannot come back from in Society. Even with her newfound Independence, she'd not be likely to attempt that sort of thing, I don't think.

    As far as words like queer, gay, and ejaculate being used, I read so much Victorian and Romantic era fiction (and studied it in college) that I'm used to it. Perhaps when you look for certain words anyway, like hat, it makes you more cognizant of individual words and it hinders your reading fluency. I'm not one to look for incidences of certain words at random.

    I wondered about the Barney Snaith = John Foster angle, too. I don't know how I feel about that. It seems awfully contrived, but I suppose it would neatly tie up the package of Valancy's Ideal Man.

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    1. I mean, this entire book is contrived, though, right? It's convenient that Cissy needs help, it's convenient that Cissy dies and Valancy has to figure out what to do next. It would be convenient if Barney were John Forster!

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  7. 1) She would never go back to the family. I am rather sure of that. Maybe she is just staying with Roaring Abel. Or she is running away to the remote place of Barney’s.

    2) I think Valancy was already fascinated by him. The stories and the passing when she was still with her family. And then she got to know home over time when he came by. I think that was the foundation. And the flash was just the light bulb in her head to give it a name. I guess back at the time this book was written it took forever for those two.

    3) I don’t think it was that sudden. Maybe the build up could have been a bit more but all things were leading to Cissys death.

    4) so many first things for sure. I am happy Valancy got to experience them all. I think the ride in the car and sitting in the forest was my favorite. But I did stop when I read about the Chinese restaurant and wondered how that was received back when the book was published. It sounded a bit no. Political correct to me the way it was written but back then it might have been so progressive.

    As for the word „elevate“ I couldn’t find it. As for my back up word „blue“ I forgot all about it but then you counted blue castle so obviously it has been there at least 9 times.

    Oh and I was wondering… is Barney that John Forster guy? It would fit. Foster is not to be known/seen and some of the comments Barney made had me wonder if he might try to stay undetected. Anyone with me here?

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    1. Imagine if she ran off with Barney! It would have been social suicide to stay with Abel, but a man roughly her own age?! Imagine the scandal!

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    2. The Chinese restaurant bit made me go "hmmmm" too! I was like - "What is that fried chicken like?" is it like orange chicken? Or is it like those Chinese restaurants we have here which have signs that say, "Subs! Chicken! Chinese Food!"?

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  8. 1) Ughhhh....I read ahead! I know everything. 🤣

    2) I still don't know how women (or men) fell in love in a matter of minutes. I suppose back in those days, people didn't have a lot of choices OR standards.


    3) My jaw dropped at Cissy's death. I thought she was going to make a full recovery after being loved/friended by Valancy.

    4) Going to the movies AND eating Chinese food on the same day? Sounds like a banner day!

    I was fairly certain that Cissy was the one who didn't want to marry the boy who got her pregnant, knowing that he didn't really love her. Right? He offered and she refused.

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    1. I recently saw an interview with a millennial actress who honestly thought the words gay and queer, when used in historical periods was foreshadowing of LGBQ. I died!

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    2. I think I was with you, Suz - it seemed like maybe Cissy would get better? I don't know. Everyone else seems to act like it was telegraphed that she would die. Maybe we need to be less optimistic in our readings!

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  9. 1) I cannot see her going back to her family!!
    2) It feels more like love or lust at first sight because how can love develop that quickly? But he does seem like a good guy so I'm not necessarily opposed. I did feel a little eye rolly about her finding love and having almost this redeeming sort of character ark. Like God forbid if she could just find happiness without falling for a guy?
    3) It did feel quite sudden and I am concerned Vallancy has caught whatever she had - rheumatic fever? TB?
    4) My favorite passage was of her driving past her awful family in Barny's car. It was like - take that!!

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    1. YES!! Why couldn't she just go out and have a good time?! Why does it have to be love? That's such a good point. I mean, we all know that it's because it's a product of its time and was probably marketed as a romance novel, but surely there was a more creative way to show that Valancy is growing as a character?

      I assumed Cissy had TB. I think it's pretty contagious, but maybe only at certain cycles in the disease? Any medical types want to weigh in on this?

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  10. My word was smile and I found two mentions of it in this week's reading.
    'He had dimples in his thin cheeks when he smiled." 107
    'Back in her terror Valancy smiled in secret." 117
    Quotes I noted:
    "She brushed the old years and habits and inhibitions away from her like dead leaves. She would *not* be littered with them." [Loved this imagery. Leaving home has removed a big weight from her shoulders and old, ugly, decaying leaves are a horrible burden to bear.]
    I love how Cissy gave Valancy a purpose. "She was suddenly happy. Here was someone who need her...she was no longer a superfluity. Old things had passed away; everything had become new." The last sentence stood out to be being a direct quote from the Bible...and I'm pretty sure that same line was repeated again in a later chapter?
    It struck me as interesting what freedoms Valancy most appreciated! " She could be alone whenever she liked, go to bed when she liked, sneeze when she liked." Ha! I can't really stop when I sneeze, so that sounds truly horrid to have stifled that for years.
    I thought it showed so much internal growth when Valancy, who had been "rebuking" herself for listening for Barney's whistle "let herself go. Why shouldn't she listen for it?"
    I laughed so hard at Roaring Able throwing her uncle out the window "with as little apparent effort as he might have employed in whisking a troublesome kitten out of the way." And how Valancy "candidly and unashamedly owned to herself that she had seen few more satisfying sights than Uncle James' coat-tails flying out into the asparagus bed." How well written is that?!
    When her mother wishes Valancy were dead because then she could have worn mourning. Ouch. What an unloving, selfish mother.
    1) I wonder if she'll end up rescuing her family in some way?
    2) I think Valancy does love Barney, but I also think Valancy doesn't really know what love means because she has never been truly loved in her pitiful, horrible life within an unloving, domineering family.
    3) I think Cissy could have died at any point; I think she had a broken heart, had nothing to live for but also didn't feel like she could die. It was a limbo of lost dreams and, somehow, having Valancy to comfort her and knowing she had given Valancy confidence to stand her ground was enough to make Cissy weary of keeping on. At one point she even says the only way I'll really get rest is when I die. I think she had a broken heart more than anything.

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    1. Imagine being told when you can and can't sneeze!!! I just can't imagine it. I would have lost my mind if I were Valancy and never had this liberating episode of my life because they would have inevitably locked me away in a sanitarium.

      Cissy's story is so sad. To lose the man she loves and her baby and then have to just continue on. No wonder she got so sick, right?

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  11. I don't think Valancy will go back to her family. She's spread her wings now, and will find a way to keep her independence. I wasn't surprised by Cissy's death. The friendship was short, but comforting for both. As a plot point, I think her death moves Valancy's story forward to more new experiences.

    I did feel her love for Barney was rather sudden, but she's been told she doesn't have much time left, so she's got to move fast to get in all the living she wants.

    I loved the green dress she bought. It supports her need to be free from all the restrictions she's felt from her family and society in general. For the first time she's showing her bare neck and arms, OH MY!

    One of my favourite lines was the quote from John Foster, "if you can sit in silence with a person for half an hour and yet be entirely comfortable, you and that person can be friends." There is something special about being around a good friend and not feeling the need to fill the air space with unnecessary chatter and just enjoy being in his/her company.

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    1. I don't think there's any way she's ever going to live with her family again. They're just too stifling for the New Valancy.

      The shock of bare neck and arms. SO MUCH SCANDAL.

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  12. 1. She doesn't have a ton of options, but I love how unconventional she decides to be.
    2. I agree with Elisabeth above-- she doesn't really know what love is.
    3. I don;t think LM Montgomery is the most progressive person even in her very not progressive time. I think the Cissys of her stories will always just be plot devices, sketched to show us how good her heroes are and how bad it is to sin.
    4. I am just so happy to see Valancy defying convention. I am afraid I would have just stayed with my mean old family because of social status, etc.

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    1. I'm with you, Sarah. I would never have defied my family. I would have been so scared. I was even worried about fictional Valancy going to the Gays - what would her options be if it had been an abusive situation?! I'm a wimp.

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  13. I remember Eve being amused by the word "ejaculate" - I think it was Agatha Christie.
    I think she loves Barney in some way - as a decent, straightforward person who doesn't treat her like an idiot or confine her to a stereotype but who also isn't an elderly alcoholic.
    I looked up 'supernal' too - I had always kind of thought it was interchangeable with supernatural, but then realized that didn't make sense here.

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    1. YES!! I thought supernal was a typo. LOL. I think so highly of myself that I must know every word. Sheesh.

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  14. I really really dislike Valency's family, and that bit about how her mother would be happier if V were dead so she could be in mourning made me want to slap her to sleep. If she goes back to those people I will slap Valency to sleep. She can't really stay with Abel though, so I am looking forward to seeing what happens! Also, that town of people daring to show up at Cissy's funeral, when they shunned her and treated her like crap for so long. All I can say is that if I could travel to that little town, a lot of people would be slapped to sleep. (A favorite expression of my Grandmother.)

    I loved that she went on a date, a movie and Chinese fried chicken! YAY! Of course she falls in love with Barney, she's never had anyone pay any attention at all to her. She was thrilled with Abel commented about her ankles. Is it 'true love'? Who is to say. She doesn't really even know him. How does one define true love? Would she be in love with him if she had any dating history, if she felt herself to be attractive and any sort of catch whatsoever? If she thought she had more than a year to live? Who knows. But he is kind, and has proven himself in his friendship with Cissy. I hope they make a go of it, and I hope it deepens into the love of people who truly know each other.

    I didn't think Cissy's death was sudden. She was very ill and had been for a while.

    I love Valency, love that she's entirely broken with convention and doesn't worry about being out in the woods alone in the car with Barney alone, other than the thought that the frat boy rednecks from the party might come along and do some serious damage to them both.

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    1. Okay, I guess I can't define true love, but I truly believe if another guy in the next chapter were also nice to Valancy, we'd have a love triangle. She'd fall for anyone who was nice to her! I do think he's a good guy, but I wish she had spread her wings a little more and looked around for other options (including being alone).

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  15. I've enjoyed seeing Valency claim her independence and was thrilled when she bought the pretty dress. The party scene was dark. I'm mad at Abel for bringing her along! But then Barney to the rescue! He's a bit odd, but he did save the day. I love this book so much!

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    1. Yeah, I really did let Abel off in my recap - he should not have brought her there. He knew exactly what kind of crowd it was!!

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  16. Hi, my scavenger word was a concept - that of colour. In this section, I noticed several mentions of the word purple or violet in descriptions of evening settings, and also the words crimson and gold (or maybe it was yellow). In answer to the questions: 1. like others, I don't think she will go back home, but I don't think she can stay with Abel. 2. I think she fell quickly for Barney because it was opportune, and also possibly because at this point in the story, he is proof to her that her family and the town gossips are just that. 3. Cissy's story is so sad and quaint, it reminded me of Beth's death in Little Women, but also - and I hope this isn't offensive to others - it was interesting in its explicit detail, while I imagine that Montgomery would never write in that time in exquisite detail about sex. I wonder if death scenes in that time were a bit like sex scenes in books now? 4. My favorite thing that Valancy go to do for the first time was make a mistake. She cut loose, put on a low cut dress and went to a bad party. Just like any other young woman!

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    1. So interesting because I thought the death scene was NOT explicit. She didn't want a doctor, she held Valancy's hand, she coughed, and she died. I thought it was so so sudden and wanted better for Cissy. Save Cissy! But, as you point out, just like Beth in LW, they were both sick for a long time, so why should any of us be surprised by it?

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  17. 1) I do not think Valancy will go back to her family or if she does, it will only be for a short period of time. (BUT DON'T DO IT, GIRL!) I don't know if it was the way my audiobooks narrator intoned Valancy's response to her family when they asked if she was coming home after Cissy died, but it definitely seemed like she was saying "I am not staying at Abel's but I am not living back with you guys." IDK!

    2) I think Valancy THINKS she is in love with Barney and who are we to say she's not? I also think you're right in that she may have found herself in love with anyone who showed her a modicum of respect and attention. At least it was Barney and he seems like a good guy.

    3) YES. Honestly, right before it happened, I started thinking that maybe she was just depressed and having Valancy around was going to help her get out of her depression and find the will to live again. I think I forgot that nope, she definitely had consumption so she would probably have died anyway but at least this way, she got to die in a much more peaceful manner.

    4) I am just so happy that Valancy is getting to do some things she's always thought about but never imagined she'd get the chance to do. The section where she sees her family while in Barney's car was PRICELESS.

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    1. You're right, Stephany. Reading the book it was clear that Valancy was saying "yeah, I'm going to hang out here to help with the funeral and then I'll have to do something else, but it ain't gonna be going back with you fools." Her mom and uncle were just being purposefully obtuse assuming that she'd come back. I just don't know where else she can go! I'm so eager to find out. (I'm going to start reading those chapters tonight.)

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  18. 3) I WAS NOT EXPECTING CISSY TO DIE!!!!
    I thought she would get magically better and have a happy ending because good things happen to good people. I might have left out an audible cry when Cissy died. I also think that the chapters are so short that Cissy's death can't help but to feel sudden - the going from "not healthy" to "dying" to "dead" was pretty quick. In a longer book, I think that all night vigil before she died might have been ten pages in and of itself, with every toss, turn, and cough documented.
    1) i don't think Valancy will go back to her family. It's just not that kind of a book. (Of course I didn't think it was the kind of book where Cissy would die, and I was wrong there.)
    2) I don't think Valancy's fascination with Barney was sudden - he's always been super intriguing and she was for sure attracted to him from the beginning. I think she's always been slightly infatuated with him. But then to realized that he's more than just an exciting person, but he's actually kind and funny and non-judgemental - I think that tips the scale for her. Nothing like being stuck on the road with someone - WHO GIVES YOU THEIR COAT!! - to make you realize that there could be something deeper there than just a dashing figure.
    Also when he says, "We'll just sit here, and if we think of anything worthwhile saying we'll say it. Otherwise, not, Don't imagine you're bound to me." I mean that's "let's fall in love" talk right there.
    3) I think I'm most excited by Valancy getting to fall in love. After all those years thinking that she's not worthy of anyone's attention and then being able to realize that there are people worth falling in love with even if she doesn't know if the feeling is reciprocated.
    Re: the language thing - i also noticed a sentence last week that used the term "pussy" and that made me fall out of my chair as well. I'm so fascinated by how language evolves!

    One of my favorite lines this week:
    "Doss," [Olivia] implored, leaning forward also, "Won't you come home - come home tonight?"
    Valancy yawned.
    "You sound like a revival meeting," she said. "You really do."
    I'm super intrigued by how church/religious references are weaved in and out - using religion pejoratively is so telling.

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  19. I WAS NOT EXPECTING CISSY TO DIE!!!! I might have made a loud half strangled sob when she died. I had fully expected that she was going to make a full recovery, saved by friendship, and then go on to have a huge brood of fat babies. I was wrong. Also - the chapters are so short that I felt like the death was really quick. I think if this had been written by Victor Hugo or one of the Bronte sisters, that death scene would have been twice as long and Valancy's all night vigil would have been soo incredibly detailed with every sigh and turn and feverish mummering recounted.
    -I don't think Valancy is going to go home either. It seems like that whole point of the book is that Valancy doesn't go home. I'm kind of waiting for her to go to New York City or Paris or something.
    -I think Valancy has always been a little infatuated with Barney - he's so different from anyone her family would approve of, and he has a car and wild hair. What's not to make a girl's heart beat faster? He's such a fascinating person from afar. But then when she gets to know him and discovers that he is actually kind of a nice guy and not a judgmental asshole and she feels a sense of connection with him, she realizes that those are kind of qualities that tip her feelings beyond infatuation. I don't think it's just that he's the first guy that was nice to her; I do think there is a bit of chemistry between them, and, as Anne Shirley would say, he's a kindred spirit.
    - I'm so excited about Valancy doing all the things that she was never allowed to do before. I wonder if Olivia isn't the tiniest bit jealous?
    I loved this bit:

    "Doss," she implored, leaning forwad also, won't you come home - come home tonight?"
    Valancy yawned.
    "You sound like a revival meeting, she said. "You really do."

    I'm so fascinated by how there is a "right" religion and a "wrong" religion throughout the book. And how the characters use religion against each other.
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    1. Right? I didn't think Cissy would die, either. I had a fantasy of a love affair between Valancy and Cissy. Alas, it's not that kind of book.

      Interesting that you see chemistry between Valancy and Barney. I'm hoping that relationship develops some so it doesn't seem so insta-love to me.

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