Week One, Chapters 1-8
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From Lisa. |
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What happened in these chapters?
Valancy has "gone dippy" after Dr. Trent told her that her death is near.
She had flatly refused to take either Purple Pills or Redfern’s Bitters. She had announced coolly that she did not intend to answer to the name of “Doss” any longer. She had told Cousin Stickles that she wished she would give up wearing that brooch with Cousin Artemas Stickles’ hair in it. She had moved her bed in her room to the opposite corner. She had read Magic of Wings Sunday afternoon. When Cousin Stickles had rebuked her Valancy had said indifferently, “Oh, I forgot it was Sunday”—and had gone on reading it. (page 66-67)
Cousin Stickles saw Valancy sliding down the bannister!!
There's a family dinner where all the family members are predictably terrible, but Valancy has a great time baiting everyone. They slag on Barney Snaith and hint that he might be the father of Cecily Gay's child.
The family thinks something is wrong with Valancy, but she refuses to see a doctor.
They hire Roaring Abel to fix up the porch and Valancy sits on the steps and chats with him.
Four years previously Cissy Gay had gone up to a Muskoka hotel as a summer waitress. And when she had come back in the fall she was a changed creature. She hid herself away and went nowhere. The reason soon leaked out and scandal raged. That winter Cissy’s baby was born. (page 109)
Cissy's baby died and Cissy is in failing health. The only person who visits Cissy is Barney. Women wouldn't go to the Gay house, so Abel and Cissy are getting by without a housekeeper. Valancy is horrified to learn Cissy is all alone and she volunteers to be their housekeeper.
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From Elisabeth. |
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Hat mentions (why hats?):
Mrs. Frederick took off her hat in Aunt Alberta’s spare-room with trembling hands. (page 71)
From Suz |
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Lines of note:
A house that always looked like a stupid, prosperous, self-satisfied man with warts on his face. (page 71)
There's a house behind ours that looks like it's always smiling. It's funny how houses have pesonalities.
Second Cousin Sarah Taylor, with her great, pale, expressionless eyes, who was noted for the variety of her pickle recipes and for nothing else. (page 75)
Poor Second Cousin Sarah.
“The greatest happiness,” said Valancy suddenly and distinctly, “is to sneeze when you want to.” (page 82)
If you didn't laugh at this line, you and I are different people.
“Oh, but you know we’re all dead,” said Valancy, “the whole Stirling clan. Some of us are buried and some aren’t—yet. That is the only difference.” (page 85)
Harsh.
"...Of course Doss has made a terrible exhibition of herself today, but she’s not responsible. Old maids are apt to fly off at a tangent like that. If she had been married when she should have been she wouldn’t have got like this.” (page 95)
Yes, old maids are opt to fly off the handle, aren't they?
“I wish,” she said whimsically, “that I may have | one little dust-pile before I die.” (page 100)
Here's the dust pile line everyone was talking about last week!
“The worst of this"—Mrs. Frederick hunted for a dry spot on her handkerchief—‘“is that every one will know now that she is deranged. We can’t keep it a secret any longer. Oh, I cannot bear it!” (page 117)
Yes, that's the worst part, Valancy's mom. Not that something might be wrong with Valancy, but that people will know. *heavy sigh*
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From CCR. |
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Things I looked up:
dilatory (page 70) - slow to act (I should know this word, shouldn't I?)
excrescent (page 71) - forming an abnormal, excessive, or useless outgrowth
Havergal College (page 78) - Established in 1894, Havergal College is a private day and boarding school for girls from Junior Kindergarten to Grade 12 in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.
“Doss,” said Uncle James heavily, “the Ten Commandments are fairly up to date still—especially the fifth. Have you forgotten that?” “No,” said Valancy, “but I thought you had—especially the ninth. Have you ever thought, Uncle James, how dull life would be without the Ten Commandments? It is only when things are forbidden that they become fascinating.” (page 92)
Let me help out the other heathens in the room. The Ten Commandments are:
The lombardies in Mrs. Tredgold’s lawn, off to the left—Valancy could just see them between the stable and the old _carriage-shop—were in dark purple silhouette... (page 99)
I assume lombardies are a flower, but Google is letting me down. It's either about the Lombardi Trophy or flower shops?
fifty-fifth chapter of Isaiah (page 107)
For the other heathens, I looked this up in my husband's Catholic Bible.
An Invitation to Abundant Life
come to the waters;
and he who has no money,
come, buy and eat!
Come, buy wine and milk
without money and without price.
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Behold, you shall call nations that you know now,
and nations that knew you nost shall run to you,
because the LORD your God, and of the Holy
One of Israel,
for he has glorified you
...
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From Melissa. |
How many times did the Blue Castle get name checked in these chapters?
Four!! (page 71, 73, 80, 114)
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From Kyria. |
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Questions to ponder (as always, feel free to answer as many or few of these as you'd like - talk about what you want to talk about!):
1) What line made you laugh the most in these chapters? For me, it was:
“Fun!” Mrs. Frederick uttered the word as if Valancy had said she was going to have a little tuberculosis. (page 102)
But second place goes to:
Life cannot stop because tragedy enters it. Meals must be made ready though a son dies and porches must be repaired even if your only daughter is going out of her mind. (page 105)
2) What do you think Valancy is going to find when she gets to the Gay house?
3) If you had to have dinner with someone in Valancy's family, who would it be?
4) Why do you think Valancy agreed to be the Gay's housekeeper? It seems like a spur of the moment decision? To help neighbors? To just take a job (any job) that is available to women? What could the consequences of this be if the job doesn't work out? Would her family take her back in?
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From J. |
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Homework for you:
Scavenger hunt! I want you all to pick a word that you're going to look for in next week's reading. I do this with the word "hat." Pick a common word and see how often it appears in the text - e.g., horse, lunch, tree, rug, etc. - and then report back next week. Bonus points if you tell us in the comments this week what your word will be. I, obviously, will be looking for the word hat.
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Jacquie's book has quite a lot to offer. Here's what she has told us in her comments and an email she sent to me. Her library's only copy of the book is the original manuscript of The Blue Castle, complete with additions, deletions and scribbled notes and other pre-publication changes. The biggest change Montgomery made was to rename her main character. Valancy was originally called “Miranda.” Suggestions for why she changed the name from Miranda to Valancy are:
1.Miranda is the name of the main character in Charles G.D. Roberts’s book The Heart of the Ancient Wood (1902), a book Montgomery owned and read.
2.She may have chosen the name Valancy as a nod to well-known poet Canadian poet Isabella Valancy Crawford.
The first photo is where I sit and enjoy my morning read.
The other photos are examples of what my copy of the book looks like. At the beginning of each chapter is a copy of Lucy Maud's handwritten manuscript. I've attached two photos as examples
The other two photos are examples of how the editor, Carolyn Stom Collins transcribed Lucy Maud's manuscript, including keeping the additional notes as close to where Lucy Maud indicated they should go, and adding annotations that explain some of the vocabulary.
At first I thought it might be hard to read with items crossed out and having to watch out for the notes, but it hasn't been. I just skip over the crossed out bits, and move my eyes either to the side or bottom of the page to read the note that has replaced the previous words.
[Back to NGS] Thanks for sending that along, Jacquie. It's so interesting. I think I would have such a hard time following all that, but you make it sound easy!
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Upcoming CBBC schedule:
February 17: Chapters 16 - 24
February 24: Chapters 25-32
March 3: Chapters 33-45
March 10: Wrap-up
* The switch from Valency fearing everyone's reaction to them fearing hers- awesome.
ReplyDelete* She's the only one acting in a true Christian spirit. Jesus walked with the outcasts and sinners (prostitutes, tax collectors, lepers). The family huddle up in their righteous little snobocracy and bemoan her actions.,disparage Cissy and Barney, care only for appearances.
*the fifth commandment confused me- but that's because in the Catholic Church, the 5th is thou shall not kill. (I was trying to figure out who was murdered). But Anglican tradition has that as 4th. ( They seem to combine #9 and #10, and break up #1 into two pieces.) Their 5th is adultery, which makes so much more sense.
* I have a soft spot for Cousin Stickles- she never mentioned the bannister.
*I'm wondering if Valency's heart trouble is actually a panic attack?
Bonus- I'll look for "cat" - Valency wanted a cat. Let's see if she gets it.
I liked the quote about life goes on..., too. - mbmom11 (
DeleteRighteous little snobocracy!! That's an awesome quote. I might keep it to describe myself.
DeleteMy husband (the lapsed Catholic) was also no help with the Ten Commandments. He kept messing up the numbers and I finally resorted to a rando religious site for help. I worry about what's going to happen to my search algorithm now.
I'll keep an eye out for cat, too!
Our girl made a lot of progress in week 2! She told off the fam, started making her own decisions, and got herself a jobby job!
ReplyDeleteMy prediction is that Barney is NOT the father, he's just a good dude and Valency being in Able and Cissy's house will be the gateway to her meeting Barney - is it going to be a romance or just a friendship? And then is the father of Cissy's baby going to be a plot point? I'm not sure yet. I'll just have to tune in for week 3 to get the answers to these burning questions.
I agree that I don't think Barney is the father. Could there be a chance Cissy didn't actually have a baby; like maybe took it in for someone else? Or maybe she was married and widowed? I'm just shocked Montgomery would write in a character with a baby born out of wedlock, so I'm on the edge of my seat for this reveal!
DeleteI never thought Barney was the father. I mean, gossip is just gossip, right? It seems clear to me that it was someone she met in the city.
DeleteI feel like Baby out of Wedlock is the *perfect* hypocritically scandalous thing to make Valency's decision to go work for the Gay family all the more shocking.
DeleteI really love this section, where Valancy discovers the power of being able to speak her mind and to break away from a lifetime of people-pleasing to do something that is actually kind and charitable. When she goes to care for Cicely at the end of the section, you can really sense her determination to make a difference in the world with what little life she presumes she has left. I found it extremely interesting and also relatable, about the criticisms that Valency endures and the judgement that the Stirling clan - along with the town - about Cicely and her plight. How many young women throughout history have endured that? They have been so wronged and they are the ones who always have had to bear the consequences.
ReplyDeleteIt is interesting to see what Valancy does with what little time (she thinks) she has left. I mean, I would probably not become a caretaker for a sick person and that does not speak well to me, I think.
DeleteI loved this part of the book SO MUCH. I don't have the book in front of me right now, but I laughed many times. As a matter of fact, I was reading it in bed and literally laughed out loud at one point, much to the surprise of my husband.
ReplyDeleteI think we would all be better off if we pretended we only had a year to live, stopped being afraid of so many things, and were more honest with people. So I just love Valancey's journey here so much! I think she decided to take the job with Abel partly out of compassion for Cissy, and partly to get away from her family and do something different with her life before she dies. Once again, I read the entire book so I DO know everything that happens, and i can't remember what I thought or suspected at this point. And, it's going to be hard for me to participate in the challenge since I already finished the book! I guess there's a downside to reading ahead.
Jacquie's copy of the book is fascinating!
It is a funny book, isn't it? I am reading a Kindle version and I honestly find myself highlighting half of every page.
DeleteJacquie's copy of the book looks so confusing to me. I can imagine trying to get a different "regular" copy and then referring to this one once in a while. She said she's not having trouble reading it, but I'm not sure I could do it! I love how she's sharing all her insights with us, though.
I LOVED this part of the book and am longing desperately to see it in movie format. I want to watch Valancy's family get their comeuppance.
ReplyDeleteAs I've mentioned, this is the first time I had ever heard of this book (and I live in Canada for crying out loud). I keep questioning why this book isn't far more popular?
I enjoyed how abrupt her switch is from "old" Valancy to "new". It feels both horrifying and liberating that such an extreme change in behaviour can happen in such a short period of time. It also speaks to how exhausting it is to maintain a false facade and that it really was a facade. She didn't internalize any of the oppressive behaviours from her family - it was all an act to keep the peace.
I think it's fascinating how she is so open about WANTING to blaze her own path. At one point Valancy says she's going to the Presbyterian church, instead of the Anglican one. When questioned, she responds if they had made her go to the Presbyterian growing up, she would be going to the Anglican. How rebellious!
I was a bit shocked about the "baby out of wedlock" (presumably? unless she's a widow and we just don't know it yet) plot twist with Cissy. This feels very progressive for the time it was written and I wonder if that's one reason it didn't gain as much traction as the Anne books?
I'll look for the word "smile" for next week.
I laughed at little cousin Georgiana being described dreary and "always looking as if she had just been starched and ironed".
But I positively cackled when Cousin Stickles biggest concern was who would rub her back at night and that Valancy had said "Oh darn!" To which Valancy's mother responds: "To think I should have lived to hear my daughter swearing." In my household growing up darn would definitely have been off limits, so it made me chuckle.
I hadn't even thought about what might happen if things didn't go well with her housekeeping duties and whether her family would take her back in. I'm supposing it all works out since it's Lucy Maud M and there is no sequel...but...I think her family would take her back in because they think she's literally insane.
That dinner scene was HYSTERICAL. I was giggling at the descriptions of the family members and Valancy's random "the greatest happiness is to sneeze when you want to" nearly did me in. So funny!
DeleteMaybe it is that this book deals with harder aspects of life - drinking, baby out of wedlock - that made it less popular that some of LMM's other books, but didn't Anne have a dark place with a miscarriage? Or am I mismembering? It felt like that would have been pretty taboo, too, right?
She had a baby die the day it was born - Anne's House of Dreams. And she was in a dark place after youngest son was born.
DeleteOh, I like so many things about this part--the reclamation of her desires and her defiance of respectability politics, especially.
ReplyDeleteI also like that her independence and agency is based on a form of "mutual aid." As I've said after the election, I got posters with the Grace Lee Boggs quote, "The Only Way to Survive is by Taking Care of Each Other." And I like that Valancy's liberation is bound up with Cissy's wellbeing. I just don't want her to catch Cissy's tuberculosis though!! That kind of sharing is going too far even for me. Haha.
Let us not catch each other's illnesses!! That's NOT fun!!
Delete1) All of her digs against her family made me chuckle. The use of "ejaculation" in the first page of chapter 9 really stopped me in my tracks, though!! I was like - what is happening here? I don't think I would ever use that verb unless I was talking about, well, you know.
ReplyDeleteOh and I also laughed about her switching religions to piss her mom off.
2) I think the house is going to be in a terrible state of disrepair. But it will give her a project which she wants/needs.
3) OMG no one. They all seem terrible!
4) I think she is a good person who can see that they need her help. I really appreciated her reflections on how no one in this supposed Christian community is willing to help. It is just such an apropos observation that remains true in our culture currently.
I think each of the family members would be great fun if you had dinner with them by yourself. Olive is probably a blast. I would love to know what Uncle Wellington really thinks. And who even knows what's hiding in Second Cousin Sarah's pickles? I want to know all of it.
Delete"Ejaculation" is used several times in Jane Eyre - mostly when someone is super upset - and I always thing of that book when I see it in another book. I was actually thinking about it's use as I read this section, and similarly the use of the words like "queer" and "gay" which are used very differently these days - I'm so fascinated by how the way we use words change over the years. Because "ejaculate" is such a descriptive work for an outburst. So what changed? How we tolerate outbursts? Or how we talk about sex? or...?
DeleteBefore I forget, lombardies are a type of poplar tree, usually planted in a row to line a walk or drive.
ReplyDeleteHere's a photo of what they look like. We used to have them alongside our property line where I grew up.
So, this book is cracking me up. It's all I can do NOT to read ahead and finish it up immediately. When I hit the description about her second cousin "who was noted for the variety of her pickle recipes and for nothing else", I hooted aloud and got looks of Severe Judgment And Disapproval from both cats. I love how Valancy shames her family by pointing out their Christian hypocrisy when she vows to go help Cecily Gay. Just the fact that she's seen as insane (dippy) for finally standing up for herself is hilarious to me (along with the name Barney Snaith).
I think Valancy feels a kinship with Cecily--both are women who are held down by an unfair societal norm. She wants to break down that final barrier between them and do what she can to be truly useful/have a purpose with what time she has left. It's also a big FU to her staid, rule-following clan.
You solved the lombardy mystery!!! Thank you!
DeleteI am glad I'm not the only one chuckling at this book. And it's impossible to know exactly how to explain it to other people. She said she'd switch religions! Ha ha ha! Her uncle keeps calling her dippy! LOLOL.
Go Valancy - YES! So great to see her stick up for herself and not care one or the other what her family thinks. She's not cruel, but she's not taking it anymore and making sure they know that.
ReplyDeleteI agree with Nance that Valancy feels a connection with Cecily who is also treated harshly because she's not following the "rules" imposed on her. I hope that friendship grows. Appearances are so important to Valancy's family, and probably everyone in the town, that all the outsiders in the book, Valancy, Cecily, Barney, Roaring Abel are judged harshly and excluded, when in fact, the good Christians should be welcoming and including them into their circles.
Snobocracy - what a great word - and glad to see Valancy is breaking away from that mindset. I am really enjoying the book and can't wait to see what happens in the next round of chapters!
Everyone else is excited about what's to come and I'm just worried that something terrible is going to happen and her family is going to abandon her. Sheesh. This probably says more about me than about the book!
DeleteLoved this line so much "A grace, to be a grace in Aunt Wellington's eyes, had to be at least three minutes long and uttered in an unearthly tone, between a groan and a chant." It was funny, sure, but also so telling about this terrible, uptight family who only like conventions once all the joy has been sucked out. Poor stifled Valancy!
ReplyDeleteCissy makes me so sad because look at us! Getting rid of abortion and birth control and vaccines so we can have shame and "ruinous" love and TB again. Are we great yet?
I LOVED that line about grace too. I'm constantly struck by how differently my Catholic husband prays from how my random Evangelical father prays.
DeleteI enjoyed these chapters so much. I read all of them last night, and might need a nap today. ;)
ReplyDelete1. I laughed at the entire dinner scene, honestly. Love how she is not holding back and just saying it like it is. So fun.
2. I think she will find a true friend in Cecily. I think the house will be in disarray, but that she'll feel useful. I also am confident that she will cross paths with Barney, and I'm here for it.
3. I would probably like to have dinner with Valency's mother. I have things to say to her.
4. I think she took the job in order to escape her circumstances - to escape her horrible house where she can't even get mail without being expected to tell everyone. I also think she's doing it mostly because she wants to feel useful, but she probably also knows that it is gonna tick off her crazy, judgmental family.
The part that made me laugh the hardest was Abel Gay's story about the housekeeper that he let go because of the jam incident. I mean this is comic gold:
ReplyDelete"She jes took holt of the dwg and wrong the syrup off his paw and back into the jar! The n screwed the top on and set it in the pantry. I sets open the door and says to her, "go!" the dame went, and I fired the jars of punkin after her, two at a time."
Oh also this bit:
She had read Magic of Wings Sunday afternoon. When Cousin Stickles had rebuked her Valancy had said indifferently, "Oh, I forgot it was Sunday" - and *had gone on reading it,*
I FORGOT IT WAS SUNDAY!!!! I mean she knows exactly which buttons to push and she is gleefully pushing them.
2) I think Valancy is going to find friends at the Gay house. Fun, and a lot less judgment and hypocrisy.
3) I don't want to have dinner with anyone in Valancy's family. They all seem horrid and insufferable.
4) I think Valancy goes to the Gays because she sees a way to escape her family, and she also sees a need there. She clearly sees that her family are all Christian hypocrites who go to church but don't show anyone any kindness. I highlighted the lines at the end of chapter 15, when her mother was all concerned for her reputation and character and Uncle Benjamin says "She's lost all sense of decency." And It's very clear that Valancy is the decent one here. She realizes that the things that her family cares about are not the ideas that she has come to see as important. I wrote in the margin "virtue???"
This book is hilarious and JUST what I need. I mean, the subject is not hilarious, clearly. But her thoughts and observations are perfection.
ReplyDeleteWhen I first read that Cissy came back pregnant and 'a changed woman' who refused to discuss the father of her child, my first thought was that perhaps she had been raped. But maybe it's just the shame of it all. Which brought up some thoughts regarding my own family.
1. My Grandma, born close to when this book was published, once told me that her father's greatest fear was that one of his daughters would come home pregnant. She said that she didn't date boys her own age because they were sex obsessed, and she wanted to be with someone serious. She married a few weeks before she graduated from high school, and her husband was 9 years older than she, and a divorced father of two. Scandal enough, she had to elope due to the divorce. ANYWAY, the other thing she said was that there was a girl she knew who had to drop out of High School because she got pregnant, and my Grandma and her sister weren't even allowed to say hello to her at church. She was pretty much ostracized by the community. This would have been the late 30s or early 40s.
2. My mom got pregnant at age 20, and was not married. She did eventually get married, 6 days before my brother was born, but not to his father, who was a musician and pretty heavily into drugs, and she didn't want that around her baby. She lied to her parents about who the father was, saying he was a married man with a family, because she didn't want them to try to force her to marry the real baby-daddy.
OK, enough of J's family drama. The book just reminded me of both of these things. I adore Valancy, and the family dinner was SO STINKING FUNNY. I will confess that I read a couple of chapters ahead, but then I was able to stop myself, and I went back and re-read these chapters so I would have a better idea of where we are.
I love that V is calling her family out for their hypocrisy regarding their Christian values, and I loved that she and Abel get along so well too. The cousin who lamented her leaving because 'who was going to rub her shoulders at night' is everything that is wrong in this world. Clearly she took the job not only to help C, but also to get the hell away from these people.
I'm going to look for the word 'teeth' (or tooth), though I suspect I will miss it entirely, as the last time I chose a word I forgot to watch for it.
Oh, also, thank you for the clarification regarding the 10 Commandments. I mean, I figured the uncle was talking about Honor they father and thy mother, based on context, but I wasn't sure of the other one, and if I had looked it up and found the wrong commandment I would have been confused. I didn't know (did I ever know this? Not sure) that different religions had them in a different order or split out or whatever. INTERESTING.
DeleteI accidentally read ahead (I "accidentally" read ahead) ("I couldn't put it down"). Without spoilers, the question I want to dig into is about Valancy's choice to be the Gay's housekeeper. I think it's a mix of things: a chance to run to a semblance of what financial freedom is available to her and away from this heavy and mean home she lives in with her family, and also a kinship with Cissy being "trapped" in her sickness and public opinion and felt drawn to go take care of her (Valancy does have a nurturing theme about her). Or, she could just be impulsive; she's on borrowed time!
ReplyDeleteI also wish there was more to Cissy's story than a late night confession. Where Valancy's is the story of someone who was trapped by societal and family rules, Cissy's is one of being burned by them and would have such a counterbalance as someone who went out and loved and lived (even if for a bit) and then lost so much. Or, even a deep dive into why Olive is so Olive, too.... The younger women of this story tell such different tales, yet are all unwed and navigating what that means at that time.
I think where I get stuck is how there is so much detail in Valancy's inner monologue when she's thinking about other people (like when she goes one by one down the family dinner table), but when she's thinking making a choice for herself, we don't get the clarity. This may be purposeful, but seeing her as someone who has lived in her own head for so long, I wish there was more about her intentions....
I so very much love this read and the discussion here! Highlights of this month!
I'm enjoying listening to the audiobook version so much! I'm listening to the one read by Laural Merlington, and she's an excellent narrator. This story is a hidden gem and I still can't believe I've never come across it before. I love how Valancy is breaking free from her family, going from repressed to feisty.
ReplyDeleteMy favorite quote is: "Won't you try to remember you're a lady?" she (Mrs. Frederick) pleaded.
"Oh, if there were only any hope of being able to forget it!" said Valancy wearily.
I enjoyed seeing the photos of the different covers everyone is reading, and it's really cool to see the original manuscript.
How interesting is Jacquie's book? Very.
ReplyDeleteI keep reading further than we're supposed to and then I forget what happened way back when I was supposed to pay attention. HA.
I am LOVING this new Valency and I'm here for all her straightforward sass. She's telling the truth and no one wants to hear it. I totally. laughed at all the same lines as you did, especially the sneezing bit. I mean, what in the world with this effed up family!