The way you consume art doesn't make you a bad person, or a good one. You'll have to find some other way to accomplish that. (page 242)
I thought this book was interesting, but I thought she picked examples of men behaving really badly (I mean, can anyone at all defend Roman Polanski? - I mean, of course, people do, giving excuses about his parents' experiences in the Holocaust, a mother dying at Auschwitz and a father spending time in a concentration camp and how his wife and unborn child were murdered by the Manson family - but those are excuses for a grown man sexually assaulting a thirteen-year-old girl. I have written about Polanski before if you want to read it.).
But the examples she picks of women artists behaving badly are not really on par. JK Rowling has done untold damage with her anti-trans statements, but she has not physically harmed anyone. Sure, Doris Lessing abandoned her children on another continent so she could write without the distraction of childrearing. But there are examples of women who have done harm on par with Polanski (consider Marion Zimmer Bradley who sexually assaulted her own daughter and helped her husband harm many other children) and Dederer doesn't really focus on that because she's pretty focused on the parallels between artists who have left their children and her own life.
I guess she's allowed to choose her examples with any criteria she likes, but I just didn't feel like it was a critical enough interrogation of the vast reality of human behavior. And that's another rather large criticism I have of the book. These people aren't monsters, they're human beings. And that's a distinction that matters. Calling them monsters is a form of distancing - I would never behave like that because I am not a monster. But we all fail in our behavior sometimes and that does not make us monsters. This is why we should be really aware when someone calls another person a pig or a sheep - that language indicates you no longer see someone as human and deserving human kindness and respect.
So, overall, it was an interesting book and it made me think. It also made me a little mad at the things it didn't grapple with. 3.5/5 stars
Lines of note:
I'm here to say I've read it and it seems to be 90 percent about people getting haircuts. (page 101) - Referring to Hemingway's posthumously published novel The Garden of Eden. As someone who occasionally writes pithy book reviews, this one struck me as hilarious.
Reading was my vocation, if a vocation is what you do when you are left entirely to your own devices. (page 180)
Reading is definitely my vocation by this definition.
"Most of my heroes are monsters, unfortunately, and they are men. If you separate their personalities from their art, Miles Davis and Picasso have always been my major heroes." For [Joni] Mitchell, separating the life from the art was not an aesthetic question, but a point of view necessary to her survival. In other words, she wasn't confronting the problem as an audience member, but as an artist. In that way, I am like her. Just trying to figure out how to do it. (page 201)
Ugh. Maybe our heroes should be people who create good art without abusing people? (JK Rowling, you have let me down so hard.)
The idea of having empathy for the monster - this was uncomfortable for me. I consumed the art of monsters, but it was with a bit of steel in my heart. How could I have empathy for Polanski or Woody Allen? Their misdeeds - their biographies - were something to be ignored. To lock the door against. My feminism - which was elastic enough to allow me to consume the work - was not elastic enough to countenance empathy for these men. They had behaved terribly; they had abused positions of power; they had brought shame upon themselves. They had me as an audience; they did not also deserve my sympathy. (page 225)
I don't know. I guess everyone deserves empathy, but maybe not forgiveness.
Things I looked up:
Valerie Solanas (page 31) - American radical feminist known for the SCUM (Society for Cutting Up Men) Manifesto, a critique of patriarchal culture.
pettifoggery (page 31) - a quarrel about petty points - what a fun word!
synecdoche (page 154) - a figure of speech in which a part is made to represent the whole or vice versa, e.g., a hired hand for a worker (hand is part of the whole worker) or new wheels for a car (wheels representing the entire car)
Hat mentions (why hats?):
In her men's vest, tie, chinos, her unsure, down-dipping eyes peering out from under a big black hat. (page 21)
I remember at the University of Washington there was a chemistry professor who wore two coats and at least as many suit jackets, a battered felt hat, and the general air of erosion that comes with sleeping outdoors. (page 105)
This is an interesting topic that I've thought about a lot. Spoiler: I don't have the answer either.
ReplyDeleteI guess it comes down to the fact that we can't cancel everything. I also think that timing matters and what is happening now has more weight than what happened in the past. If a new movie was coming out that I wanted to see and the director did something horrible right before it came out, I might skip the movie. But I'm planning to watch Rosemary's Baby sometime in the near future and when I do I'm sure that Roman Polanski will get a few cents in royalties. Do I care? Not really.
For the most part I use my gut to make these decisions. Watching Bill Cosby in anything is not appealing. Watching a Woody Allen movie is most likely going to be a delightful experience so why should I deny myself the joy?
I think this is a really interesting because Dederer's thesis is that we all make these decisions based on our own life experiences and biographies. I would be horrified to watch a Polanski or Allen film, but it doesn't really come up in my life since it would never just appear in front of me. BUT my biography is different from yours. I still read JK Rowling and have such complicated feelings about it. *sigh* Humans are complicated.
DeleteDidn't Anne Perry murder someone as a teenager? I feel like that didn't affect her career at all. I read Monsters as well, I thought it had a lot of points that made me think, but I was low-key hoping for a conclusion that said "AND THIS IS THE ANSWER".
ReplyDeleteYes, Anne Perry murdered her friend's mother when they were teenagers. She changed her name and moved to the States and became an author. What a crazy story.
DeleteI think Dederer's answer is interesting, kind of. Your own past and experiences will guide you to decide what's right for you. You can't know everything about every creative person whose works you might come across and if you do learn something, you may or you may not let that influence how you consume the art. And, most importantly, it's okay that we will make different justifications about this.
"I guess everyone deserves empathy, but maybe not forgiveness."
ReplyDeleteThis sentence is going to have me thinking for days.
I'm probably not going to read this book because I feel like your precis pretty much covered its salient points. And I think this "gods have feet of clay" thing goes for any sort of Maker/Artist/Celeb, including athletes. We touched upon it briefly when discussing the NFL in your previous post. It's tough to feel positive about a product when its creator is anathema to you. Just like it's tough to patronize a store or business or line of goods when they don't have the same ethical or political standards/beliefs that you do.
Like Birchwood Pie said, however, we can't cancel everything. But is our responsibility really a Shibboleth? Do we just say, "I'm not interested in the person; I'm only interested in the product." Are we just eschewing accountability (theirs) and our own sense of a moral high ground?
I don't know. Dederer seems to think that we should all be left off the hook. I don't know that I feel comfortable with that as a solution, either. There is a certain morality in how we spend our time and money, after all. I just don't know that there's a one-size-fits-all solution to this problem and we can't generalize about what works for Nance should work for Birchie should work for NGS. Is that a copout, though?
DeleteI struggle with this too. I used to listen to Michael Jackson, and now I can't listen to his music. I've never been a fan of Woody Allen the actor, though I do like his movies when he is not present. Roman Polanski, no. Bill Cosby, no. But John Lennon was abusive to his first wife, and David Bowie had sex with 15 year old groupies (and was accused of rape, don't know if that one was true or not). I still enjoy the Beatles and I have a picture of David Bowie above my desk. For me, looking at the artist as a deeply flawed person and admitting to myself that they have done horrible things is a start. But it's definitely discomforting.
ReplyDeleteI went back and read your post on Polanski. I agree, if he ever comes back to the US, he should be put in jail for what he did and for evading justice. I think it's ridiculous that people support him. But then again, David Bowie. Sigh.
Right? I feel so conflicted. It's mostly authors I like that let me down, but it's so hard to know what to do with their work. This is another time when I wish there was a handbook for adulting!
DeleteI wrestle with this all the time, so this book is going on my summer list. At some point though, my body weighs in--so I'll have visceral reactions to Chris Brown or David Bowie and just *cannot* enjoy their work anymore.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I'm glad that Valarie Solanas is in your universe now. The whackiest of sages :D
DeleteI can't deal with Michael Jackson, personally. I had to ask my fitness instructor to please stop playing him! You're right that our bodies do have some control.
DeleteYes, I guess it all boils down to your personal decisions. But I don't think you can lump JK Rowling in with Roman Polanski. Also, some of these people have done horrendous things and that's been proven, and some of the other ones are gray areas. I've read Rowling's explanation/rebuttal of the whole anti-trans thing, and she doesn't sound like a "monster" at all. But once again, I don't know the full story, just as we don't know the full story with Woody Allen (although I guess it's an obvious proven fact that he married Soon-Yi, which is... creepy, at best). I don't know... I guess I'm willing to cut JK Rowling some slack because I love her work so much, which is almost the reverse of what you're talking about (should you reject someone's work based on their personal life choices/should you forgive someone's personal life choices based on their work.) I guess we can all agree that it's complicated.
ReplyDeleteIt's such a hard question, but I think you're right. I don't think we should lump JKR in with Roman Polanski. I didn't think the author really grappled with her own double standard about men and women.
DeleteYou know I still read JKR books and I feel sort of guilty about it. Ugh. I'm sure this is how (some) people who love Woody Allen movies feel.