Thursday, March 20, 2025

Here Be Dragons (Welsh Princes #1) by Sharon Kay Penman

I have no idea how I heard about this book. I think it was a podcast? But I can't figure out what podcast it was. Anyway, I'm pretty sure that I thought this book was about the War of the Roses, but with dragons? I mean, I was WRONG, but I think that's what I thought. Here Be Dragons is the first in Sharon Kay Penman's Welsh Princes trilogy. There are no dragons here. This is straight historical fiction. 

Wales is a divided country in the thirteenth century. And there's the pesky English king always trying to garner territory for England by invading Wales. In this doorstop of a book (700 pages! tiny font!), we follow Prince Llewelyn as he forges a truce with the English king by marrying the king's illegitimate daughter Joanna. Does it take 200 pages to get to our main characters even meeting? Yes, yes, it does. Does that mean that this book had a slow start? Yes, yes, it does. Did I forgive that slow start when I had to start covering my eyes every few pages because something else terrible was going to happen? Yes, yes, I did. 

I don't know if I can recommend this book wholeheartedly because it does take 200 pages before the real action starts. BUT! If you like Ken Follett and his world of historical fiction that reads like a soap opera, I think you'll find this scratches the same itch. I was so invested in Llewelyn and Joanna and I was so upset when they started to get old because I KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS.

Reader, I might read the other books in the trilogy. Even though they are also both over 500 pages long.  4.5/5 stars

Lines of note:

Llewelyn followed Joanna to the window, where the light was better. Although his outdoor sight was still eagle-keen, as he moved into his late forties he was becomingly increasingly farsighted. Knowing that, and knowing, too, that he was somewhat sensitive about it, Joanna elected to read Isabelle's letter aloud. (page 529)

I feel personally attacked about my eyesight. 

"Fretting about time's passing will now slow it down one whit." (page 689)

Right. I must remind myself that growing old is a privilege. 

Things I looked up:

corrody (page 86) - a lifetime allowance of food and clothing, and often shelter and care, granted by an abbey, monastery, or other religious house. While rarely granted in the modern era, corrodies were common in the Middle Ages

plight troth (page 120 and elsewhere) - to make a promise of marriage

alaunt hound (page 214 and elsewhere) - an extinct type of dog which came in different forms with the original possibly having existed in North Caucasus, Central Asia and Europe from ancient times. This type of dog may have been developed by the Alans, and was renowned primarily for its quality as a large-game catch dog, and as a war dog and guard dog. 

distraint (page 451) - the seizure of someone's property to obtain payment of rent or other money owed, especially in common law countries

suzeraity (page 476) - includes the rights and obligations of a person, state, or other polity which controls the foreign policy and relations of a tributary state but allows the tributary state internal autonomy

lazar house (page 572) - leper colony

malmsey (page 644) - type of wine

Hat mentions:

None

Dragon mentions (I remained convinced until roughly page 500 that dragons would suddenly appear):

The pages were bringing in the subtlety, a spun-sugar creation sculptured to resemble a flame-breathing dragon. (page 374)

"Are there dragons in England, then?"
So it was not elephants at all; it was England. "There have been reports of English dragons, but I've never met anyone who actually saw one, Davydd," (page 473)

As a point of interest, the title of this book has its roots in the common practice of medieval cartographers; when a mapmaker had drawn upon all of his geographical knowledge, he would neatly letter across the void beyond: Here be dragons. I found the symbolism hard to resist, given how very little the English of the thirteenth century knew of Wales and the Welsh. Then, too, the national emblem of Wales is a winged red dragon, much like those heraldic dragons once emblazoned upon the banners of her princes. (page 704)

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Would you read an entire trilogy about wars in Wales a thousand years ago? 

18 comments:

  1. Ooookay. First you made me read Ken Follett's Century trilogy, and now this? I don't know for sure if I'll read this, but it does sound really good. The next long book on my TBR is Pillars of the Earth though. Maybe after that I'll read this!

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    1. I wasn't as drawn in immediately to this one as I was to either of the Follett trilogies. I would definitely recommend you read Kingsbridge before this one! Pillars of the Earth is SO GOOD.

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  2. Wait- NO MENTION OF HATS?????? what kind of historical fiction is that?
    I do love that point about “Here be Dragons”. I feel like I need that kind of catch phrase in my life when I don’t know what is going on. Where is the left sock? Here be dragons. What is the 13 year old doing in her room? Here be dragons. What’s for dinner? Here be dragons. What’s going on with the Department of Education? Here be Dragons.
    I’m listening to an audiobook where one of the actors is Welsh and his accent is so lovely that I might just want to read a 500+ page book so I can hear his voice in my head.

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    1. No hats! There were caps, mantles, veils. No hats. Crazy stuff. Maybe hats weren't big in that time period?

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  3. No hats? NO HATS?!?! Ok, I'm back. I'm trying to save a whole bunch of books for the 2 weeks I can't work and I'm wondering if dragons and Wales and history (but not hats...) might be something to add to the list...

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    1. But there are NO DRAGONS. Don't go into it thinking there are. You'll be disappointed.

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  4. No, I do not think I would read a trilogy about wars in Wales a million years ago (or whatever). I did laugh that you felt attached about your eye sight. Bah ha ha. 200 pages until we meet the main character? I'll take a pass, but I'm impressed that it ended up being such a good book that you might read more in the series.

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    1. I might read more. We'll see. I'm pretty behind in my reading challenge for the year because I keep getting distracted by these big books. Ha!

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  5. I would absolutely not read a trilogy about wales in the 1300s. As far as I understand from living here, everyone was named llewellyn or lewellyn ap llewellyn. I had hoped this was going to be a fourth wing dragon book so I am glad I did not get started reading it based on the title! I just finished a book I thought was going to be magical realism but it turned out to be loose historical fiction and it took me at least 50% of the book to realise there was no magic coming.

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    1. So many repeated names! So many Lewelyns, Richards, Joannas, Gruffydds. It was hard to keep track. I imagine if I had listened to it I would have been so confused.

      I feel you about the no magic. It was a bit disappointing to realize this was a case of simple historical fiction, but it was successful, so I guess I should stop talking about how disappointing it was.

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    2. Guys are you telling me that you have listened to an audiobook format edition of "Here be Dragons" by Sharon Kay Penman, the first of the Welsh Princes trilogy? as I understand oit that is impossible as there is no audio edition? Not even on disc? If there is please could you let me know the publisher and any details you might have? I have been hunting for the best of Sharons work in audio format for literally years and years...

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    3. Oh, no. I just said "if I had listened to it" it would be confusing. But I read it. All a gazillion pages of tiny print.

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  6. OK, I'm seriously annoyed that this is not available as an audiobook. This is a PERFECT set up for an audiobook. Sigh. I'm not sure I can make it through reading this sucker in bed. It might suffocate me if I fall asleep with it on my chest. I am also not sure I could finish the darn thing in the time I'd have the print book from the library. *grumble*

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    1. Right? I wanted to listen to it on Hoopla so I could have gotten it two times in a row if I ran out of loan time. *sigh* Oh, well. I had to read it in the tiny font.

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  7. Ok... I think I like this one. I have seen the title somewhere come up on the blogs too but hadn't put it on the TBR. But twice.... It is a sign. And I love a Follet book.

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    1. Yay! I hope you do read it. I was riveted.

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  8. Yeah the War of the Roses confusion is probably because Sharon Penman's first novel was "The Sunne in Splendour" which was an epic work covering the War of the Roses from the Yorkist side and especially from the aspect of Richard Duke of Gloucester who would become Richard III of evil memory. I am a heavy reader of both historical fiction and historical non fiction (I fancy myself as an amateur historian) but I also have read science fiction, thrillers and just about every genre from fantasy to the classics. I have been an avid reader all of my life and this womans books are some of my all time favourites. "The Welsh Princes" trilogy and the "Sunne in Splendour" are probably in my Top five ever novels... all four of them!!! What I simply do not understand is the complete lack of audiobooks in Sharon Penmans body of work. A couple of the Plantagenet Series are available in the US but not in the UK (the country whose history they are taken from!!!) and sadly her best works are not available in audio format at all? Namely "The Welsh Princes" trilogy and the "Sunne in Splendour" I am incredibly unhappy about this and certainly do not understand it as many vastly inferior historical fiction books are published in audio format every week... what the hell is going on? I have been waiting over 10 years. I know Sharon sadly died but her estate are missing a trick here and they are certainly not doing justice to her legacy. These audiobooks are important now and could bring a whole host of new readers to her work. I have read "The Sunne in Splendour" 3 times over the last 40 years and "The Welsh Princes" trilogy at least the same amount of times maybe more. I would immediately purchase any audiobooks and listen to them as i have found that if the narrator is okay it can be like discovering your favourite novels and books all over again. I have ischaemic heart disease and CoPD I really do not know how long I am going to last but I would dearly love to enjoy the audio publication of "The Sunne in Splendour" and "The Welsh Princes" trilogy before I die but I have been waiting 12 years or more for audible to pull their finger out or her estate to pull their finger out. It is a crime against literature and it is simply not fair...

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    1. Well, I hope for your sake that they do put it out on audio. Imagine how long the audiobook would be!

      I don't read a ton of historical fiction and absolutely no historical non-fiction if I can help it, so I think it's telling that even I enjoyed this book. It's appeals to a broad audience.

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